Re: Please vote yes - 1364.1 ballot


Subject: Re: Please vote yes - 1364.1 ballot
From: Paul J. Menchini (mench@mench.com)
Date: Fri Jun 14 2002 - 12:02:37 PDT


All,

> I stand corrected. Thanks, Paul.

NP--it's my job! <G>

> I know that the Verilog committees reviewed and responded to all
> comments from both positive and negative ballots. I did not remember
> that the comments were sent out with the revised IEEE document. I did
> remember that any yes vote could be changed to a no vote on the second

And, of course, any no vote can similarly change to yes. But, in each
case, affirmative action by a balloter is required. If the balloter
does nothing, his previous vote stands.

> pass. One big difference this time around is that we should receive
> all comments electronically, which should make responding easier than
> it was for the Verilog Standards. For the Verilog Standards we had to
> request electronic comments from each comment submitter and in some
> cases the comment submitters either did not respond or had not kept a
> copy of the comments (we had to hand enter comments before we could
> even respond).

Yeah, that *was* a pain, but we try to make things a bit better each
time....

> I also remember some ballots being returned with what appeared to be
> comments for the sake of making a comment along with a yes vote (these
> are the comments that I was hoping to avoid).

Well, if the comment is not substantive, it can be responded to with a
statement that the BRC (ballot resolution committee) thinks it's not
substantive....

<cute>
Given that you want to avoid comments accompanying affirmative ballots,
would you like me to change my vote to "no"? I did vote "yes", but I
also had some comments. But, since I did not feel that they merited a
no vote, I also voted "yes." However, if you'd prefer....
</cute>

> One interesting side note on the electronic balloting process: I like
> balloting electronically and I like being able to download an
> electronic copy for review, but it may make sense to also send out a
> hard copy to balloters. I do not recall receiving notification of the

Cliff, what, exactly, are you proposing that a hard copy of be sent to
balloters? Remember, I now have some "pull" with the SA, and can bring
this suggestion to their attention. I think you may mean that the
ballot comments should be sent back to each commentor who made them in
hard copy form, but I'm not entirely sure....

> electronic hard copy (may have been deleted by one of my filters or by
> me accidentally) and I had to ask Bhasker about the ballot
> materials. This is not too different from public companies sending
> ballots by mail but permitting electronic balloting (yes I know there
> are some differences).

Remember, my goal as a BoG member is to ease the creation of standards.
If there's something that we can do to make it easier for the
volunteers, I'm all ears.

Paul



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