Re: [sv-ec]E-mail Vote: Closes 12am PST December 15 2007

From: David Scott <david_scott_at_.....>
Date: Thu Dec 13 2007 - 16:10:45 PST
No on 2055 (repeating my vote against the same proposal on October 26) 
and No on 2181 just owing to confusion.

Yes to the remainder.

-- David Scott, Mentor Graphics


Mehdi Mohtashemi wrote:
>
>  Section a)
> CLOSE following mantis items, covered by 1702
>  412  _X_ Yes   ___ No  
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000412        
>
>  516  _X_ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000516        
>
>  517  _X_ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000517        
>
>  518  _X_ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000518        
>
>  519  _X_ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000519        
>
>  520  _X_ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000520        
>
>  521  _X_ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000521        
>
>  522  _X_ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000522        
>
>  801  _X_ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000801        
>
>  974  _X_ Yes   ___ No  
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000974        
>  
>
>   Section b)
>       958, 1447,
>      1858 [contains two proposals:
>               1858-randomize_with_syntax.htm]
> 	        1858_local.pdf
>      2055, 2137, 2181 2227 
>
>
>  958  _X_ Yes   ___ No  
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000958        
>
>  1447  _X_ Yes   ___ No  
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001447        
>   
>  
>  1858  [Multiple proposal files]
>   1858-randomize_with_syntax.htm       _X_ Yes   ___ No  
>   1858_local.pdf                       _X_ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001858        
>   
>  2055  ___ Yes   _X_ No  
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0002055

NOTE: 2055 IS A REDUNDANT VOTE. THE PROPOSAL FROM OCTOBER 20 HAS NOT 
BEEN MODIFIED SINCE THE LAST VOTE ON OCTOBER 26. My objections 
previously were:

There was nothing unclear in the previous description; this is an 
arbitrary change and introduces incompatibility with 1800-2005. I think 
we need to debate how compelling is this change for typical users and 
weigh that carefully against the incompatibility.

>        
>  
>  2137  _X_ Yes   ___ No  
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0002137        
>  
>  2181  ___ Yes   _X_ No  
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0002181        
>   

I apologize if I wasn't paying attention sometime and am arguing from 
ignorance, but I am confused between "rules" and "productions". The text 
of 17.17 defines what is a "production" but not what is a "rule". The 
BNF in Syntax 17-2 seems to show productions containing rules which in 
turn contain productions, so that doesn't help me.

Consequently, I can't tell if there are red strike-throughs missing in 
this proposal. Is the new third paragraph supplemental to the first or 
supposed to replace it? What led me to think that red strike-throughs 
are missing is that "For example:" in the second paragraph is followed 
by another paragraph, not an example. The second paragraph seems to me 
surely to be intended as deleted (requiring red strike-throughs) -- but 
I can't tell about the first paragraph owing to my own confusion between 
"rules" and "productions".

>  2227  _X_ Yes   ___ No  
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0002227        
>  
>
>
> section a) 
>      412 5.14.1 Queue operator examples use aggregate constructors
> incorrectly
>      522 use of concatenation in 5.14.2 (Francoise)
>      521 pattern assignment for queues (Francoise)
>      520 example of queues assignment (Francoise)
>      519 section 5.14,empty array literal syntax (Francoise)
>      518 queues and arrays (Francoise)
>      517 concatenation syntax usage section 5.14 (Francoise)
>      516 5.7 and 5.8 description of type compatible arrays
>      801 Errors in assignment pattern in 5.4 example
>      974 comparison of dynamic arrays/queues to 1-dimensional fixed
> arrays 
>
> section  b)
>     1858 Name binding in inline constraints 
>          two separate proposals
>     1447 Contradictory stmts about unsized array dimensions (5.1 vs. 5.7
> and 5.8) 
>      958 dynamic array size method unclear when empty
>     2055 coverage bin distribution is not even
>     2137 Some assertion contexts should be procedural
>     2181 Ambiguity implicit declaration of production variables in
> randsequence 
>
>   


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