Re: [sv-ec]E-mail Vote: Closes 12am PST December 15 2007, and Minutes of Dec3,10 on the web,

Why are we voting again on 2055?

We voted on it on October 26, based on its October 20 proposal. There is 
no newer proposal than that. So this merely repeats a vote identical to 
one we have taken before -- in which the measure was defeated and a bug 
note added after some discussion at the next meeting.

Recall that Stu added this bug note:

> There is general agreement on the EC that this change is a desirable 
> enhancement, but needs to done in such a way as to maintain backward 
> compatibility with the existing algorithm. Proposal 2055_D4.V3.htm 
> (2007-10-20) is not backward compatible.

Since there is no newer proposal, I will only repeat my previous objections.

-- David S


Mehdi Mohtashemi wrote:
> Reminder, midnight Friday December 14 is deadline for the ballot
> below. Also, minutes of Dec3 and Dec 10 meetings are on the
> the web,  www.eda.org/sv-ec/Minutes.html   
>
> - Mehdi
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mehdi Mohtashemi 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 4:03 PM
> To: Arturo Salz; 'Clifford E. Cummings'; 'Rich, Dave'; 'Francoise
> Martinolle'; 'Neil.Korpusik@Sun.COM'; 'Ryan, Ray'; 'Gordon Vreugdenhil';
> 'Steven Sharp'; 'stuart@sutherland-hdl.com'; 'Heath Chambers';
> 'mills@lcdm-eng.com'; Mark Hartoog; 'Mike Mintz'; 'David Scott';
> 'Michael Burns'
> Cc: 'sv-ec@eda.org'; 'Jonathan Bromley'; 'Geoffrey.Coram'
> Subject: RE: [sv-ec]E-mail Vote: Closes 12am PST December 15 2007
>
> [Modification to the email ballot:
>   Removed: (mistakenly placed in the email ballot)
>     a) 1809:  mistakenly placed, sv-bc issue
>     b) original proposal file name for 1858 
>        1858-randomize-constraint-resolution.htm	  
>
>   Added: replaced 1809 with mantis 974 (CLOSE)
>
> Please use the following list to cast your vote by midnight Friday
> December 14 2007.
> It would be great to have voting done by that day, so that given an
> extension from p1800 working group we can resolve other issues on Monday
> December 17th meeting.
> - Mehdi
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> We are conducting an email vote based on December 10 2007 sv-ec meeting.
> The time period for this ballot is 3 days, the voting closes on December
> 15 2007, 12 am. Please send your vote no later than Friday December 14
> 2007 11:59pm PST] Please read guidelines and instructions for each
> mantis item listed since there may vary depending on the mantis item.  A
> few mantis items may have multiple proposals, you should vote for each
> proposal with YES/NO vote.  
>
> Individual eligible members' email is used in TO list since there maybe
> a delay with sv-ec email reflector. Other regular attendees as well as
> sv-ec alias are listed in the CC part.  At the moment the reflector site
> does not come up.
>
> The following mantis items are listed for voting:
>   section a) Mantis set related to queue manipulation, covered by 1702 
>      (Note 1702 was approved on December 10 2007) to be closed.
>      412, 516, 517, 518, 519, 520, 521, 522, 801, 974 
>
>   section b) 
>       958, 1447,
>      1858 [contains two proposals]
>      2055, 2137, 2181 2227
>
>  Operating guidelines for sv-ec email vote:
>  - Only 3 days to respond (Midnight Friday December 14th 2007)
>  - An issue and its proposal passes if there are zero ** NO ** votes 
>    and at least half of the eligible voters respond with a YES vote.
>  - Any NO vote must be accompanied by a reason.
>    This issue will then be up for discussion at the next conference
> call.
>  - If there are more than one proposal indicated per mantis 
>    item, please cast your vote for each and every proposal.
>  - Please indicate any friendly amendment that you think will change
>    your vote to a YES, this will help with completing our task.
>   
>  As of the December 10 2007 meeting, the eligible voters are (total 15):
>  
>  Arturo Salz,
>  Cliff Cummings         
>  Dave Rich           
>  Francoise Martinolle
>  Neil Korpusik      
>  Ray Ryan
>  Gordon Vreugdenhil
>  Steven Sharp
>  Stu Sutherland
>  Heath Chambers
>  Don Mills
>  Mark Hartoog
>  Mike Mintz
>  David Scott     
>  Mike Burns
>  
>  
>  Please mark your vote below by an x. If No, then specify a reason. 
>  Send it to the reflector.
>     412, 516, 517, 518, 519, 520, 521, 522, 801, 974 
>
>  Section a)
> CLOSE following mantis items, covered by 1702
>  412  ___ Yes   ___ No  
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000412        
>
>  516  ___ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000516        
>
>  517  ___ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000517        
>
>  518  ___ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000518        
>
>  518  ___ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000519        
>
>  520  ___ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000520        
>
>  521  ___ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000521        
>
>  522  ___ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000522        
>
>  801  ___ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000801        
>
>  974  ___ Yes   ___ No  
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000974        
>  
>
>   Section b)
>       958, 1447,
>      1858 [contains two proposals:
>               1858-randomize_with_syntax.htm]
> 	        1858_local.pdf
>      2055, 2137, 2181 2227 
>
>
>  958  ___ Yes   ___ No  
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=000958        
>
>  1447  ___ Yes   ___ No  
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001447        
>  
>  1858  [Multiple proposal files]
>   1858-randomize_with_syntax.htm       ___ Yes   ___ No  
>   1858_local.pdf                       ___ Yes   ___ No     
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001858        
>   
>  2055  ___ Yes   ___ No  
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0002055        
>  
>  2137  ___ Yes   ___ No  
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0002137        
>  
>  2181  ___ Yes   ___ No  
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0002181        
>
>  2227  ___ Yes   ___ No  
>  http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0002227        
>  
>
>
> section a) 
>      412 5.14.1 Queue operator examples use aggregate constructors
> incorrectly
>      522 use of concatenation in 5.14.2 (Francoise)
>      521 pattern assignment for queues (Francoise)
>      520 example of queues assignment (Francoise)
>      519 section 5.14,empty array literal syntax (Francoise)
>      518 queues and arrays (Francoise)
>      517 concatenation syntax usage section 5.14 (Francoise)
>      516 5.7 and 5.8 description of type compatible arrays
>      801 Errors in assignment pattern in 5.4 example
>      974 comparison of dynamic arrays/queues to 1-dimensional fixed
> arrays 
>
> section  b)
>     1858 Name binding in inline constraints 
>          two separate proposals
>     1447 Contradictory stmts about unsized array dimensions (5.1 vs. 5.7
> and 5.8) 
>      958 dynamic array size method unclear when empty
>     2055 coverage bin distribution is not even
>     2137 Some assertion contexts should be procedural
>     2181 Ambiguity implicit declaration of production variables in
> randsequence 
>
>   


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