Hi, Ray. As a user reading this section for the first time, here are the interpretations I would come to as answers to your questions: > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sv-ec@server.eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ec@server.eda.org] On > Behalf Of Ryan, Ray > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 3:49 AM > To: sv-ec@server.eda.org > Subject: [sv-ec] semantics of wildcard bins > > The last last paragraph of the section on wildcard bins (18.4.3) states: > > "A wildcard bin definition only considers 2-state values; sampled values > containing X or Z are excluded. Thus, the range of values covered by a > wildcard bin is established by replacing every wildcard digit by 0 to > compute the low bound and 1 to compute the high bound." > > > 1) The statement about the range of values is not right or is confusing. > > For example: > wildcard bins bx = { 4'b?0?0 }; > This does not cover the values in the range 0000 to 1010. It doesn't > cover 0001. > [Shalom] Agree. > 2) What does it mean that sampled values containing X or Z are excluded. > > For example: > wildcard bins bx = { 4'b?0?0 }; > I would expect that if the sample value is: > 0000 - increment the bin count > 1000 - increment the bin count > 0001 - don't increment > 000X - don't increment > 0010 - increment > 00X0 - increment > 00Z0 - increment > However, the text seems to indicate that the last two sample values > are excluded and > so don't increment the bin count. > [Shalom] Yes, they are excluded. The text explicitly says that the ? is a wildcard for 0 and 1 and that it works like ==?. > 3) How many bins are created for > wildcard bins bx[] = { 4'b?0?0, 4'b?000, 4'b00?0 } > I would expect that 3 bins are created. > [Shalom] Agree. > 4) How are wildcard ignore_bins handled? > For example: > bins BA[2] = { 2'b00, 2'b1x }; > bins BB[2] = { 2'b10, 2'b0x }; > wildcard bins BC = { 2'b0?, 2'b11 } > wildcard ignore_bins ivals = { 2'b00, 2'b?0, 2'b0? }; > ignore_bins vals = { 2'b01, 2'b00, 2'b0x, 2'b0z }; > > The ignore value 2'b00 will be removed from the first BA bin causing > the > bin to be ignored. > Will the ignore value 2'b?0 remove the 2'b10 value from BB ? [Shalom] Yes. > Will the list of values in the last ignore_bins remove the wildcard > value 2'b0 from BC ? [Shalom] Yes. Two more editorial quibbles: The first example in this section is called g12_16 and increments "when the sampled value is between 12 and 16". Actually the range is only 12-15. Also, the first and third paragraphs in this section refer to "wildcard bins", with both in Courier font. As a reader, I would be in doubt whether or not this implies that 'wildcard' may only be used with 'bins' and not with 'ignore_bins' and 'illegal_bins' (going back to the rule that the BNF does not contain all the information and the text supplements it). The simplest correction would be to de-Courierize "bins' in those two places. ShalomReceived on Wed May 10 04:16:29 2006
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