SV-EC Errata Meeting Minutes 31 August 2004 9:00 am. Tuesday [Prepared 2004 September 1, distribued, for approval at next sv-ec errata meeting] Attendees: ---------- (A) Arturo Salz (A) Brad Pierce (A) Dave Rich (A) David Smith (A) Dennis Brophy (A) Eugene Zhang (A) Francoise Martinolle (A) Karen Pieper (A) Mehdi Mohtashemi (A) Neil Korpusik (A) Ray Ryan (A) Stu Sutherland |__ 31 August 2004 (a) Alex Wakefield (a) Surrendra Dudani A => Attended (Present for both roll calls: beginning and end of meeting) a => Present for roll call at beginning, absent at end meeting roll call [refer to item 7 at end of this minutes for more information] - => Missed Action Items: ---------------- 1. Johnny - needs to clarify that clause a. of the IEEE patent policy applies to the work of the P1800. 2. Mehdi - send logistics for the SVEC meeting of 13 September, 2004. 3. David Smith and Karen - come to an agreement on the errata classification process and send it out to all 4 committees. 4. Karen - does the P1800 want to review things that don't result in a change to the LRM? 5. Arturo - Errata 138 - send email for clarification. 6. Arturo - Errata 33 - type in a proposal. Change resolution to fixed. 7. Neil - Errata 25 8. Arturo - Errata 127 - send email to Jeita. 9. Ray - Errata 172 10. Arturo- Errata 173 11. Ray - Errata 174 12. Mehdi - Errata 175 13. Arturo- Errata 35 Minutes 31 August 2004 taken by Neil Korpusik ---------------------------------------------- 1) Review the IEEE patent policy It was agreed that we should have someone read the patent policy for the first couple of meetings. David Smith read the guidelines for the patent for submittal policy. Dennis pointed out that P1800 aligned patent policy with that of DASC, and that clause A applies to system verilog. clause B is not acceptable mechanism. [AI] Johnny will clairfy this with all sub-committee errata sv groups. 2) Approve the minutes of 2004 May 24th meeting Motion: Accept Minutes of 24 May 2004 Moved: Karen Second: Ray Abstain: Brad, Stu, Eugene Opposed: None Passed 3) Review the provisional operating guidelines Karen read the Operating Guidelines. She indicated that these guidelines have not yet been approved by the P1800. They are similar to the guidelines under which the Accellera System Verilog committees have been operating in the past with one minor difference. The section on email votes is slightly different from the guidelines in use by the P1800. Karen is working to establish a group of champions. The champions will work across P1800 errata sub-committees. There were two topics of discussion within the operating guidelines discussion: The LRM changes and documentation, and Errata submissions 3a) LRM committee There will be a separate LRM committee that will edit the LRM. David suggested that writeups contain change bars or use color codings to indicate changes and modifications to existing LRM text. This streamlines the LRM editing process. 3b) Errata submission dates Midnight 1 September, 2004 is the cutoff for errata submissions that are guaranteed to be considered for this release. Errata may be submitted at any time. The 1 September cutoff applies to those that are guaranteed to be processed. Motion to approve the operating guidelines Discussion: Dave Rich - do we need to vote on this, since they were already approved by the P1800. They haven't yet been approved by the P1800. We may as well vote and agree to the guidelines set forth. Motion: Approve the operating guidelines as read Moved: Dennis Second: Karen Abstain: none Opposed: none Passed 4) Elect a new chair (David is retiring from the SV-EC) David Smith no longer has time to chair the SVEC and hereby resigns. He hopes to be able to still participate in the meetings. Nomination: Neil nominates Mehdi Second: Karen Abstain: Against: Passed: new chair 5) Choose a meeting time Karen will need a list of prioritized errat to be presented to P1800 meeting on Sept 14th, by 12 midnight on the 13th Monday. The next meeting will be held 13 September, 2004 from 11am-1pm PST. [A/I] Mehdi will send out the logistics. 6. SV-EC outstanding errata The errata data base is at: http://www.eda.org/svdb/ 6a) Use of the errata database Existing status field values - the current usage model is shown. new - was added to the database feedback - acknowledged - confirmed - assigned - was assigned to an individual resolved - was voted on and approved closed - was added to the LRM There was a discussion of using the "resolution" field. Using some of these values would prevent us from having to add additional fields. The available values for the resolution field are: open fixed reopened unable to duplicate not fixable duplicate not a bug suspended won't fix [A/I] Karen and David will review these fields and document the process. [A/I] David check if CSV report can have status added. It will be up to the chair and co-chair to ensure that errata submitted to the reflector by someone that doesn't have submission access to the errata database do get added to the database. [A/I] Johnny will add Jeda to bug-reporting, eugene@jedatechnologies.com. Jeda will re-examine the errata enteries, some are for older drafts. David Smith created an account for Jeita (during the meeting). You can't update a bug if you login as a reporter. The CSV export button can be used to dump out a list of bugs to an xl spreadsheet. Priorities are indicated by the number of "red hats" in the "P" column. 3 is considered high, 2 is considered medium and 1 is considered low. 6b) P1800 involvement The P1800 makes the final approval on all errata. If an entity has an issue with any errata decisions being made by one of the errata sub-committees they can request that those errata be taken off the consent agenda at the P1800 meeting. Those errata would then be moved to the discussion section of the meeting. 6c) SV-EC old errata/bug review There are 6 bugs on the SVEC site that are not in the LRM It was agreed that errata 4, 6 and 7 needed to be reopened. Items 8,9,10: voted on and resolved. Motion: Move all SVEC open isses to be added to the errata list Move: Karen Second: Dennis Abstain: none Against:none Passed 6d) The disposition of each of the SV-EC errata was reviewed All of the assigned one are high-priority 35, total in EC, 26 assigned high-priority. There was a full errata meeting a few weeks ago, 22 is still high-priority. Errata 138 Priority - high Status - feedback [A/I] Arturo - send email to Jeita for clarification. Karen had entered the Jeita items. 133, 138, 139, 141, 143 and 144 assigned to Arturo for further exploration and resolution. Errata 33 Priority - high 13.7.2 vs. 3.8 - inconsistent in descriptions of null events. It was agreed that 3.8 should be removed. [A/I] Arturo - type in a proposal. Change resolution to 'fixed' after adding the proposal. Errata 25 Priority - high Assigned to Neil Errata 127 Status - resolved Resolution - not a bug We don't know how to meet this request. AI/Arturo - send email to Jeita. Motion: to move to resolved status Move: Karen Second: Ray Abstain: none Against: none Passed Errata 134 Status - new Priority - low Type - enhancement Errata 172 Priority - high Assigned to Ray Errata 173 Priority - high Assigned to Arturo Errata 174 Priority - high Assigned to Ray Already contains a proposal Errata 175 Assigned to Mehdi Errata 35 Assigned to Arturo Event expressions containing a class handle should only be sensitive to changes in the handle. Errata 156 Re-assinged to SV-CC. 7. Attendance requirement The operating guidelines require at least 50% of a meeting to be attended in order for individuals to receive credit for attendance. In order to monitor this it was decided that a roll would be taken at the beginning and at the end of each meeting. When someone drops off they need to notify the others on the call before they are about to drop off. End of meeting Roll call: Ray, Dennis, Stu, Neil, Mehdi, Karen, David Smith, Dave Rich, Francoise, Arturo, Eugene, Brad (Surendra and Alex had dropped) 8. Next Meeting Monday 13th 11:00 am-1:00pm. send the logistics, agenda. 9. Meeting adjourned at: 11:02 a.m.