RE: [sv-ec] Class initialization proposal uploaded - Mantis 2597

Thanks.

I'm OK with it now.

Shalom 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gordon Vreugdenhil [mailto:gordonv@model.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 6:07 PM
> To: Bresticker, Shalom
> Cc: Arturo Salz; Steven Sharp; sv-ec@eda.org
> Subject: Re: [sv-ec] Class initialization proposal uploaded - 
> Mantis 2597
> 
> Shalom,
> 
> I've uploaded a v3 propoal -- "...shall be provided automatically."  "
> explicit or implicit new method...".
> 
> 
> I think the redundancy in 8.16 is Ok since that is more explicitly
> talking about the constructor chaining.  I did add an 
> sentence referring
> back to 8.7 for how property initialization occurs.
> 
> Gord
> 
> Bresticker, Shalom wrote:
> > I prefer the more elaborate example. It clarifies questions 
> that will otherwise be asked.
> > 
> > Specific comments on the wording:
> > 
> > "an implicit new method shall be provided" - by who? what 
> does it do? This will not be clear to the reader.
> > 
> > "In either case" - not clear. I assume the intent is 
> whether 'new' is explicit or implicit.
> > 
> > "the new method shall first call its base class constructor 
> (super.new as described in 8.14)" - Note that this is 
> repeating a lot of the first paragraph of 8.16:
> > 
> > "When a subclass is instantiated, the class method new() is 
> invoked. The first action that new() takes, before
> > any code defined in the function is evaluated, is to invoke 
> the new() method of its superclass and so on up
> > the inheritance hierarchy. Thus, all the constructors are 
> called, in the proper order, beginning with the root
> > base class and ending with the current class." 
> > 
> > Is all the repetition needed? Could the texts be combined?
> > 
> > I realize that time is pressing and even an imperfect 
> solution is better than none at all.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Shalom
> > 
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-sv-ec@server.eda.org 
> >> [mailto:owner-sv-ec@server.eda.org] On Behalf Of Gordon Vreugdenhil
> >> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 10:38 PM
> >> To: Arturo Salz
> >> Cc: Steven Sharp; sv-ec@eda.org
> >> Subject: Re: [sv-ec] Class initialization proposal uploaded - 
> >> Mantis 2597
> >>
> >> I agree the example is contrived; I wanted to hit
> >> several of the issues simultaneously.  I have no
> >> problem with putting in the simpler example.  I'll
> >> do that as a separate version and we can decide
> >> in the meeting.
> >>
> >> If you and/or Steven want to send me any wording
> >> suggestions, I can see if they are similar to each
> >> other and modify things a bit.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Gord.
> >>
> >> Arturo Salz wrote:
> >>> I'm fine with the intent of the proposal. Like Steven, I 
> >> have some wording improvements and the example seems a bit 
> >> contrived - perhaps a simpler example along with the final 
> >> values should be enough - something along the lines of:
> >>> class B;
> >>>   int x = 1;
> >>>   function new();
> >>>     x = 2;
> >>>   endfunction
> >>> endclass
> >>>
> >>> class D extends B;
> >>>   int z = x;
> >>>   function new();
> >>>     $display( x, z );
> >>>   endfunction
> >>> endclass
> >>>
> >>> Displays: 2, 2
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>>
> >>>         Arturo
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Steven Sharp [mailto:sharp@cadence.com]
> >>> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 2:24 PM
> >>> To: sharp@cadence.com; Arturo.Salz@synopsys.COM; 
> >> sv-ec@eda.org; gordonv@model.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [sv-ec] Class initialization proposal uploaded 
> >> - Mantis 2597
> >>> I am fine with the proposal.  There is some wording that I 
> >> think could
> >>> be improved slightly, but experience indicates that if 
> >> everyone starts
> >>> proposing what they think are minor wording improvements, 
> >> we get bogged
> >>> down in discussion.  So I will resist temptation, and 
> hope others do
> >>> also, unless they see a serious problem with it.
> >>>
> >>> There is an error in the example code, which refers to b2 
> >> instead of c2.
> >>> Steven Sharp
> >>> sharp@cadence.com
> >>>
> >> -- 
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> >> Gordon Vreugdenhil                                503-685-0808
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