RE: [sv-ec] Definition of access for class parameters.

Thanks.

Currently 2598 has its own proposal attached, and there is no note in 2598 or 2608 pointing to 2575.
There should also be a comment in one of the Mantis fields of 2575 listing the ballot comments it addresses.

Shalom
 

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> From: Francoise Martinolle [mailto:fm@cadence.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:25 PM
> To: Bresticker, Shalom; Gordon Vreugdenhil
> Cc: sv-ec@server.eda.org
> Subject: RE: [sv-ec] Definition of access for class parameters.
> 
>  
> I uploaded the proposal to mantis # 2575.
> The proposal I submitted takes care of several mantis items. It was a
> decision we
> made to treat mantis items 2575, 2608 and 2598 together in 
> one proposal.
> 
> Francoise
>     '
> 
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> From: Bresticker, Shalom [mailto:shalom.bresticker@intel.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 4:57 AM
> To: Francoise Martinolle; Gordon Vreugdenhil
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> Subject: RE: [sv-ec] Definition of access for class parameters.
> 
> Where? I don't see it.
> It should be Mantis 2608.
> 
> Shalom 
> 
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> > From: Francoise Martinolle [mailto:fm@cadence.com]
> > Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:23 PM
> > To: Bresticker, Shalom; Gordon Vreugdenhil
> > Cc: sv-ec@server.eda.org
> > Subject: RE: [sv-ec] Definition of access for class parameters.
> > 
> >  
> > New proposal considering your comments has been uploaded to Mantis.
> > 
> > Francoise
> >     '
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bresticker, Shalom [mailto:shalom.bresticker@intel.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 12:28 AM
> > To: Francoise Martinolle; Gordon Vreugdenhil
> > Cc: sv-ec@server.eda.org
> > Subject: RE: [sv-ec] Definition of access for class parameters.
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > This is the first time I have looked at this.
> > 
> > The term "parameter", unless specifically qualified as "value 
> > parameter"
> > or "type parameter", is a generic term including both. If the term 
> > "parameter" is intended to specify only value parameters, 
> it needs to 
> > say so explicitly. On the other hand, if both are meant, 
> there is no 
> > need to specify both.
> > 
> > Thus, for example, where 8.17 says, "Class parameters and 
> class local 
> > parameters are also public," this includes both value and type 
> > parameters.
> > 
> > Where 8.22 says, "A class parameter, type parameter or 
> local param is 
> > a public element of a class," the use of "type parameter" 
> is redundant
> 
> > because it is included in "class parameter".
> > 
> > The text should be consistent in order to avoid confusion.
> > 
> > The use of "local param" should be avoided. It should be 
> either "local
> 
> > parameter" or "localparam".
> > 
> > At the end of the proposal, on page 4, there is some extra text.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Shalom
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-sv-ec@server.eda.org
> > > [mailto:owner-sv-ec@server.eda.org] On Behalf Of Francoise
> > Martinolle
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 1:31 AM
> > > To: Gordon Vreugdenhil
> > > Cc: sv-ec@server.eda.org
> > > Subject: RE: [sv-ec] Definition of access for class parameters.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > Second version of the class parameter specification which 
> addresses 
> > > Gordon's comments.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gordon Vreugdenhil [mailto:gordonv@model.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 4:54 PM
> > > To: Francoise Martinolle
> > > Cc: sv-ec@eda.org
> > > Subject: Re: [sv-ec] Definition of access for class parameters.
> > > 
> > > Francoise, this looks pretty good to me.  Thanks for
> > working through
> > > the details there.
> > > 
> > > One detail lies in the grammar -- a constant_primary only 
> admits a 
> > > ps_parameter_identifier which does allow the syntactic form
> > name::name
> > 
> > > but where the LRM uses package_name to indicate intent for
> > the prefix.
> > > Ideally I think that should be fixed in the grammar.
> > > We might also consider explicitly stating that
> > class_type::parameter
> > > is a constant expression.  That likely isn't needed with
> > the grammar
> > > change, but it makes the asymmetry with the "this." and "super."
> > > more explicit and obviously intentional.
> > > 
> > > Gord.
> > > 
> > > Francoise Martinolle wrote:
> > > > Attached is a proposal for specifying access to class
> > > parameters, type
> > > 
> > > > parameters and local class parameters.
> > > >  
> > > > Mantis is not working so I have not uploaded the proposal.
> > > >  
> > > > Francoise
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