RE: [sv-ec] class datatype

 Gordon,

Actually I was clear to me that base::i in that context refers to the
default
class specialization. I may not have been cleared in my email.

So in summary we do agree it should be illegal.
Thanks
Francoise
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Vreugdenhil [mailto:gordonv@model.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:27 PM
To: Francoise Martinolle
Cc: sv-ec@eda.org
Subject: Re: [sv-ec] class datatype



Francoise Martinolle wrote:
> I am wondering if the following is legal:
>  
> class base #(parameter i = 0, j = base::i); endclass

First, I do think that:
    class base #(parameter i = 0, j = i);
    endclass
is fine; I assume that there is no question on that.


However, in your example, there is an assumption that I think you are
making with which I disagree.  The  assumption is that in this  context
the name "base" is the name of the scope and not the name of the default
specialization.

As of the current Draft 5 LRM language, it is pretty clear that the only
time in which a parameterized class name does NOT refer to the default
specialization is when one is defining the return type (or the name) of
an extern method.

So in this case, I would consider "base::i" to mean "the parameter value
or 'i' in the default specialization".


In that narrow situation (when talking about only the base), I think you
do have an issue related to the one that you are talking about -- a more
explicit but equivalent question is when the base type of "base#()::i"
comes into existence with respect to an in-progress specialization of
the the default type.

That is indeed touchy and there are some interesting (and much worse)
type problems lurking behind the question.

My opinion at this point is that the default **type** doesn't actually
come into existence early enough to refer to itself in the parameter
list.  At some point we should discuss the issues related to that but
for now, I'd consider it illegal to refer to "base" within the defaults
of its parameters.

Gord.


>  
> or
>  
> class base #(parameter i = base::j, j = 1);
>  
> When is the class datatype "base" defined? immediately after the name 
> base or when the semi colon of the class declaration is reached.
> I assume the latter but is there any language in the LRM to specify
this?
>  
> Francoise
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