RE: [sv-ec] Randomizing size of associative arrays

Is it possible that this should have said queue instead of associative
array? I can't think of any why a queue couldn't be resized by
randomize?

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From: owner-sv-ec@server.eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ec@server.eda.org] On
Behalf Of Michael Burns
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 12:07 PM
To: Bresticker, Shalom
Cc: Ryan, Ray; sv-ec@server.eda.org
Subject: Re: [sv-ec] Randomizing size of associative arrays


Hi all,

Mantis 2113 has been created for this with proposal doc uploaded.

--Mike

Michael Burns wrote:
> 
> Thanks - I hadn't found that thread. I've also just found the Mantis 
> (889), which escaped me even though it's marked all over the draft in 
> 17.4... perhaps I'm going colorblind and can no longer see red.
> 
> Anyway, there's still the issue of the inconsistency with 17.5.7,
which 
> says that you _can_ constrain the size of an associative array. It
looks 
> like all we need is a fix to that section:
> 
> In D4 sec. 17.5.7, p.393, paragraph 6, change:
> 
>   "The size method of a dynamic or associative array can be used to 
> constrain the size of the array"
> 
> to:
> 
>   "The size method of a dynamic array can be used to constrain the
size 
> of the array"
> 
> Does this sound reasonable?
> 
> --Mike
> 
> Bresticker, Shalom wrote:
>> There was a long email thread on this starting at
>> http://www.eda-stds.org/sv-ec/hm/3293.html , started by a guy named
Ray
>> Ryan.
>>
>> Shalom
>>  
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-sv-ec@server.eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ec@server.eda.org]

>>> On Behalf Of Ryan, Ray
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:12 PM
>>> To: Michael Burns; sv-ec@server.eda.org
>>> Subject: RE: [sv-ec] Randomizing size of associative arrays
>>>
>>>
>>> In section 17.4 (Random Variable), there are two consecutive
bullets.
>>>  - Dynamic and associative arrays can be declared rand or randc. All

>>> of the elements in the array are randomized, overwriting any
previous 
>>> data.
>>>
>>>  - The size of a dynamic array declared as rand or randc can also be

>>> constrained. ...
>>>
>>> This explicitly allows associative arrays to be declared as random 
>>> variable. The second bullet only allows size constraints on dynamic 
>>> array. As consecutive points, it seems clear that constraining the 
>>> size of an associative array is not allowed.
>>> I believe there was some earlier discussion on this and that the 
>>> ommission of associative arrays was intentional.
>>>
>>> - Ray
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-sv-ec@server.eda.org
>>>> [mailto:owner-sv-ec@server.eda.org] On Behalf Of Michael Burns
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:35 PM
>>>> To: sv-ec@server.eda.org
>>>> Subject: [sv-ec] Randomizing size of associative arrays
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> Is it intended to be able to constrain and randomize the size of an

>>>> associative array? Draft 4 sec. 17.4 p385 paragraph 3 talks about 
>>>> constraining the size of a dynamic array, but not an associative 
>>>> array. In the absence of any other language, one would naturally 
>>>> assume that the intention was not to allow constraining the 
>>> size of an
>>>> associative array. However, section 17.5.7 p.393 paragraph 
>>> 6 uses very
>>>> similar language, but does include associative arrays. If 
>>> the intent
>>>> is to allow randomizing the size of an associative array, 
>>> I'd like to
>>>> hear how it was supposed to work - I'm having trouble imagining 
>>>> anything useful, particularly for non-integral index types. On the 
>>>> other hand, it would certainly be useful for associative array 
>>>> randomization to preserve existing size and indices, and only 
>>>> randomize the values.
>>>>
>>>> If there's a mantis on this already, I'd like to address it in this

>>>> round. If not, I'd like to know so I can submit one.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
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