Subject: RE: Minutes of meeting (includes donation plus instructions for reflector access). (resend)
From: David W. Smith (dws@dolcesfogato.com)
Date: Thu Jul 04 2002 - 11:37:24 PDT
Hello Simon,
Can you please cleanly state the correction you would like to make to the
minutes. As you know the minutes are meant to reflect the discussion that
occurred during the meeting and not continue the discussion after the
meeting. The statement that I put into the minutes I believe correctly
reflected the comment I made. As to its being correct or not that is a
subject for another discussion.
I believe you did make a comment after this which I may not have correctly
captured. I do not believe it is all of what you sent in the email I am
responding to. If you would like me to correct the minutes can you please
provide me with the comment that is missing from the meeting or confirm that
the email you sent is meant to be added to the minutes as the response you
made to my comment in the meeting.
I am not trying to avoid the discussion you are raising. We do not agree on
it (and apparently one other person also does not agree) but this is not
germane to correcting the minutes.
I apologize for the use of the word workbench. Bad habit of using workbench
and testbench for the same thing. Do you wish to see this correct in the
minutes before we vote on them on Monday as well?
Regards
David Smith
(Yes, this is an alternate email address that I use)
-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Davidmann [mailto:simond@co-design.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:19 AM
To: David Smith; 'sv-ec@eda.org'
Subject: Re: Minutes of meeting (includes donation plus instructions for
refle ctor access). (resend)
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From: Simon Davidmann[SMTP:SIMOND@CO-DESIGN.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:18:58 AM
To: David Smith; 'sv-ec@eda.org'
Subject: Re: Minutes of meeting (includes donation plus instructions
for refle ctor access). (resend)
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David
A correction to the minutes.
they state:
David Smith observed that this was also true about the ESS donation based
on SuperLog and that the required semantics and syntax was added to the
language.
this is technically wrong. the facts are:
SUPERLOG was designed as an extension to Verilog syntax and semantics and
is completely consistent with it.
When ESS and DAS were donated to Accellera they both were already
competely compatible with Verilog 95, 2001 syntax. A fundamental strategy of
the language design was to extend Verilog, not be an alternative to it.
There were no modifications to ESS from donation to standardization as
SystemVerilog - just the deferral of some items, and the addition of one. No
changes to syntax or semantics.
Vera was not designed as an extension to Verilog, but as an extra
language, an HVL - that has constructs to connect one language to another.
I believe we should be looking to focus on Vera as an HVL - in the same
way that as Verilog95 was standardized it was not modified by OVI to break
all the existing Verilog code that people had working with it. We don't want
to start modifying Vera - it already works - we need to keep it consistent
with the legacy code that is out there - otherwise we would be doing a
disservice to its users and Accellera members.
also what is the 'workbench' you keep mentioning - I cannot recall it
being mentioned in the meeting.
Simon
At 03:31 PM 7/1/2002, David Smith wrote:
Some people did not appear to get the minutes I sent last Friday. In
addition there are a lot of new members that have signed up.
Here is a resend. I apologize for the duplication.
I am still working on resending the donation. There are some procedural
issues I am getting resolved.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-sv-ec@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-ec@eda.org]On Behalf Of David
Smith
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 4:52 PM
To: 'sv-ec@eda.org'
Subject: Minutes of meeting (includes donation plus instructions for
reflector access).
The attached document contains the SV-EC minutes. Unfortunately the
instructions for joining the reflector were in error in the meeting the
correct
instructions are in the minutes. I have added everyone at the meeting
to the reflector and those that indicated interest to the committee.
I will try and resend the Testbench donation (as requested during the
meeting).
Please review and send any corrections to the minutes before the next
meeting.
Regards
David
David W. Smith
Synopsys Scientist
Synopsys, Inc.
9205 SW Gemini Drive
Beaverton, OR 97008
Voice: 503.520.2715
FAX: 503.643.3361
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