[sv-bc] RE: associativity of ** operator

From: Bresticker, Shalom <shalom.bresticker_at_.....>
Date: Mon Oct 26 2009 - 21:59:12 PDT
Marq,

Writing 2**3**2 is not the same as writing on paper 2 followed by a superscripted 3 followed by a double-superscripted 2.

Those superscripts define an implicit associativity that does not appear when written linearly.

In these programming languages, it is a matter of definition.

In any case, changing the associativity now would cause a problem of backwards compatibility, which is the main reason it won't be changed in SystemVerilog (There won't be any more 1364 as it has been merged into SystemVerilog.).

I also don't see why you think that with left-to-right associativity it becomes equivalent to * except for the left-most operator. If that were the case, then 2**3**2 would give you (2**3)*2 = 16, not 64.

Regards,
Shalom 

> In LRM 2.3.1 I believe there is a mistake in operator 
> associativity. According to section 4.2.2 all operators 
> associate left to right except the contional operator. This 
> is the wrong choice in the case of the exponentiation 
> operator '**' because this operator should also associate 
> right to left. With left-to-right associativity this operator 
> becomes equivalent to the multiplication operator except for 
> the leftmost operand.
> 
> Here is a small example to show the difference:
> 
> 2**3**2 = ?
> 
> left-to-right associativity:
> 
> 2**3**2 = (2**3)**2 = 8**2 = 64 = 2**(3*2)
> 
> right-to-left associativity:
> 
> 2**3**2 = 2**(3**2) = 2**9 = 512
> 
> This should probably be changed in IEEE 1364 (Verilog) and 
> IEEE 1800 (SystemVerilog) as well.
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