RE: [sv-bc] Resend: E-mail Ballot: Respond by 8am PDT, Tuesday, March 25

OK, let's deprecate them, too.

-- Brad

-----Original Message-----
From: Bresticker, Shalom [mailto:shalom.bresticker@intel.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:56 PM
To: stuart@sutherland-hdl.com; Brad Pierce; sv-bc@eda.org
Subject: RE: [sv-bc] Resend: E-mail Ballot: Respond by 8am PDT, Tuesday,
March 25

There are other constructs I would sooner deprecate, such as vectored,
scalared, and macromodules.

Shalom 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sv-bc@server.eda.org 
> [mailto:owner-sv-bc@server.eda.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Sutherland
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:46 PM
> To: 'Brad Pierce'; sv-bc@server.eda.org
> Subject: RE: [sv-bc] Resend: E-mail Ballot: Respond by 8am 
> PDT, Tuesday, March 25
> 
> I would support adding $signed and $unsigned to Annex C.3, on 
> items identified for possible future deprecation.
> 
> Stu
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Stuart Sutherland
> stuart@sutherland-hdl.com
> +1-503-692-0898
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-sv-bc@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-bc@eda.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Brad Pierce
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:30 PM
> > To: sv-bc@eda.org
> > Subject: RE: [sv-bc] Resend: E-mail Ballot: Respond by 8am PDT, 
> > Tuesday, March 25
> > 
> > Should $signed and $unsigned be deprecated?
> > 
> > -- Brad
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-sv-bc@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-bc@eda.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Steven Sharp
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:04 AM
> > To: sharp@cadence.com; sv-bc@eda.org; matthew.r.maidment@intel.com; 
> > shalom.bresticker@intel.com
> > Subject: RE: [sv-bc] Resend: E-mail Ballot: Respond by 8am PDT, 
> > Tuesday, March 25
> > 
> > 
> > >From: "Bresticker, Shalom" <shalom.bresticker@intel.com>
> > 
> > >I would maintain that since $signed() was not defined in 1364 for 
> > >2-state types (since there were not any), that 1800 is 
> free to define 
> > >its result for 2-state types in any logical 
> back-compatible way, just
> > as
> > >1800 has done for other operations from 1364.
> > 
> > I agree that this is true.  However, since having properties of the 
> > function return type depend on properties of the argument type is 
> > extremely unusual, I would prefer to minimize it.  Therefore I will 
> > continue to maintain that it applies only to the width, and 
> that the 
> > return type is still a generic vector of logic, independent of the 
> > argument type.
> > 
> > 
> > >But I agree that this implicitly defines that $signed() returns a 
> > >2-state result for a 2-state argument as well as 
> explicitly defining 
> > >that for sign casting.
> > 
> > Some people might infer this.  I don't.
> > 
> > Steven Sharp
> > sharp@cadence.com
> > 
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