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  • To: Benoit Bemer <benoit_bemer@xxxxxxxx>
  • From: David C Black <dcblack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 11:56:56 -0600
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Benoit Bemer wrote:
 Hello,

 What to think of SystemC future ?

 It seems that future versions of SC will only be LRM
 and up to vendors to implement. I understand the issue
 of open source requiring contributors. But then I also

 read that key vendors are disengaging ressources from
 SC tools.
 For instance Cadence laying-off SystemC people:

http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&board=4688009&tid=cdn&sid=4688009&mid=12053

 Does SC have a future ?

BM

I'm not sure where you are getting your information from, but as consultants specializing in SystemC, we've seen a large increase in the number of companies desiring services and support with SystemC. Also, there are many EDA companies supporting SystemC as evidenced on systemc.org.


The only EDA company we've seen backing away from SystemC is Synopsys. They have their own reasons mainly SystemVerilog and limited resources (like any company). In the short term this will probably be a good thing for Synopsys since it is much easier to convince engineers in the US that refuse to move to a truly different paradigm to use what amounts to an extension of Verilog.

From what we've seen, new graduates coming out of school are the best students of SystemC, and new design paradigms. Several universities are now teaching SystemC. True systems companies have started to realize this and are finding new graduates to be a better value. College kids of today think of object-oriented concepts as normal, and coding in C++ is a normal activity for any type of work.

Also, there are several SystemC synthesis tools in the making (some on the sly), and a number of other really innovative other tools. I am not allowed to discuss several of them due to NDA.

RTL has been around for over 20 years with no real advances. RTL is going the way of assembly language, and the RTL designers of today will become the schematic designers of tomorrow (5-10 years). Design sizes are growing rapidly. 100M gates on a chip is not unreal.

Suffice it to say the design landscape is changing. Europe and Asia have seen the light and have made the most progress in this area. Some jobs are moving overseas for the reason that U.S. engineers are not keeping up with the times.

If you're one of those RTL designers, you should be worried. Either move into layout design, as we've seen a number of engineers do, or start learning C++ and move your design skills up a notch. If you're one of those with C++ skills and a good grasp of both hardware and software, the future looks bright!

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